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AMNA: I’M AMNA NAWAZ.
ON THE NEXT "NEWS HOUR," DR.
ANTHONY FAUCI TESTIFIES BEFORE FEDERAL LAWMAKERS ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE COVID VIRUS.
THAT’S WEDNESDAY ON THE "PBS NEWS HOUR."
AMNA: I’M AMNA NAWAZ.
TONIGHT ON THE "NEWS HOUR," THE LEADERS OF UKRAINE AND ISRAEL BOTH VISIT THE WHITE HOUSE AT A CRITICAL TIME FOR THE ONGOING WARS.
COMING UP AT 7:00 AFTER EVENING EDITION ON KPBS.
GEOFF: GOOD EVENING.
I’M GEOFF BENNETT.
AMNA: AND I’M AMNA NAWAZ.
ON THE "NEWS HOUR" TONIGHT, TWO WHITE HOUSE VISITS, TWO DIFFERENT WARS.
WHAT UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT AND ISRAEL’S PRIME MINISTER ARE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THEIR TRIPS TO THE U.S.
GEOFF: POLITICIANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS PAY TRIBUTE TO LATE SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM AT WASHINGTON’S NATIONAL CATHEDRAL.
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AMNA: WELCOME TO THE "NEWS HOUR."
TODAY, THE LATE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM WAS REMEMBERED AS A TIRELESS FIGHTER FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND AN INFLUENTIAL FIXTURE ON THE WORLD STAGE DURING A MEMORIAL SERVICE AT THE WASHINGTON CATHEDRAL.
GEOFF: PRESIDENT TRUMP EULOGIZED GRAHAM AFTER HOSTING TWO OF GRAHAM’S STRONGEST INTERNATIONAL ALLIES -- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER AND THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT.
NICK SCHIFRIN STARTS OUR COVERAGE THROUGH THE NICK: IT WAS ALL SMILES IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND A TALE OF TWO LEADERS.
A U.S.
PARTNER ONCE DISPARAGED NOW PRAISED.
IN A WARTIME ALLY ONCE PRAISED A NOW INCREASINGLY DOUBTED.
FOR YEARS, PRESIDENT TRUMP STOOD BY PRESIDENT NETANYAHU’S SIDE WITH REPEATED ENDORSEMENTS.
>> THERE’S ONLY ONE, PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.
BIBI, PLEASE STAND UP.
NICK: CHRISTIAN DOING IN AN UNPRECEDENTED WAR.
>> PRETTY CLOSE.
NICK: PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ACKNOWLEDGED A GAP WITH ISRAEL PUSHING FOR AN INDEFINITE OCCUPATION OF SOUTHERN LEBANON.
>> I WAS A LITTLE PERTURBED AT HIS CONSTANTLY FIGHTING WITH LEBANON, YOU KNOW?
AT SOME POINT, I SAID BIBI, WE HAVE TO STOP THIS.
NICK: IN THE GAP BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DESIRE TO MAKE A DEAL WITH IRAN AND SENT ISRAELIS PUSHING FOR ISOLATION, EVEN DISCUSSING BOMBING IRAN’S PICKAX MOUNTAIN.
>> I DON’T NEED BIBI TO TELL ME THAT.
HE WANTS ME TO STAY INVOLVED.
I SAID WHY DON’T YOU JUST TELL IT TO ME?
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT TO THE WORLD?
NICK: THE WAR IN GAZA HAS MADE SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL MORE PARTISAN.
>> BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS A WAR CRIMINAL.
NICK: ZOHRAN MAMDANI HAS DISPARAGED NETANYAHU.
AND ENDORSED CANDIDATES CRITICAL OF ISRAEL.
>> ANYONE IN HIS WHO THINKS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION THAT COUNTRY ISN’T.
NICK: THE CRITICISM IS INCREASINGLY BIPARTISAN AND VOICE TO THIS MONTH ON JOE ROGAN’S PODCAST BY VICE PRESIDENT VANCE.
>> THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT WHO ARE MANIPULATING AND TRYING TO CHANGE AMERICAN PUBLIC OPINION TO KEEP THE WAR GOING ON INDEFINITELY.
AGAIN, NOT TOWARDS ANY OBJECTIVE BUT JUST INDEFINITELY.
NICK: NETANYAHU CALLED TODAY’S MEETING EXCELLENT.
>> IT WAS A CONVERSATION OF FULL PARTNERSHIP, OF MUTUAL SUPPORT, AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE SHARED GOAL TO ENSURE THAT IRAN WILL NOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND OTHER GOALS.
NICK: AS PER PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY -- >> HE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
HE HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
THESE HAVE THE BEST EQUIPMENT BECAUSE HE’S AT OUR EQUIPMENT.
NICK: PRESIDENT TRUMP AND OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS HAVE OFFERED HIM PRAISE.
>> WE HAVE DEVELOPED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.
HARD TO BELIEVE.
NICK: IT IS LIGHT YEARS FROM LAST YEAR’S TRAIN WRECK.
>> YOU ARE GAMBLING WITH WORLD WAR III.
NICK: AND DEMANDS TO END THE WAR NO MATTER THE COST OF UKRAINE.
>> THEY SHOULD STOP RIGHT NOW AT THE BATTLE LINES.
GO HOME AND STOP KILLING PEOPLE.
NICK: UKRAINE HAS RECENTLY SEIZED THE FRONT LINE INITIATIVE, LODGING STRIKES DEEP INTO RUSSIA AND CUTTING OFF RUSSIAN SUPPLIES TO OCCUPIED CRIMEA.
UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS ARE TELLING PBS THE MEETING WAS VERY PRACTICAL AND FOCUSED ON RESTARTING DIPLOMACY, INCLUDING A POSSIBLE VISIT BY PRESIDENTIAL ENVOY STEVE WITKOFF AND JARED KUSHNER TO UKRAINE.
PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY AND NETANYAHU CAME TOGETHER BRIEFLY BEFORE SENATOR GRAHAM’S MEMORIAL.
TWO LEADERS OF TWO COUNTRIES HOME GRAHAM CHAMPIONED.
>> HE LOVED THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
NICK: AND AS SEAN HANNITY NOTED TO A FULL WASHINGTON NATIONAL CATHEDRAL, GRAHAM’S FINAL TRIP WAS TO KYIV AND PUSH A NEW SANCTIONS PACKAGE ON RUSSIA, EXPECTED TO PASS IN THE COMING DAYS.
>> YOUR COUNTRY HAS SHOWN A FIGHTING SPIRIT THAT NO ONE EVER PREDICTED.
HE WAS PROUD OF YOU AND THE COURAGE OF YOUR COUNTRYMEN.
NICK: A SENTIMENT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS COME TO APPRECIATE, EVEN AS HE ACKNOWLEDGES GAPS WITH A WARTIME ALLY.
FOR THE "PBS NEWS HOUR," I’M NICK SCHIFRIN.
GEOFF: SENATOR GRAHAM’S MEMORIAL TODAY BROUGHT TOGETHER PRESIDENTS, PRIME MINISTERS, SENATORS, AND CABINET OFFICIALS.
THE DAY BEGAN AT THE ROTUNDA IN THE CAPITOL, WHERE THE LATE CONGRESSMAN AND SENATOR SERVED FOR 30 YEARS AND BECAME KNOWN AS A FOREIGN POLICY HAWK, A KEY PRESENCE ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, AND ULTIMATELY, A STRONG ALLY OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE PRESIDENT AND GRAHAM’S NIECE REMEMBERED HIM DURING THE FUNERAL SERVICE.
PRES.
TRUMP: BY THE STRENGTH OF HIS STEADFAST CONVICTIONS, THE FORCE OF HIS MAGNETIC PERSONALITY AND THE GOODNESS OF HIS NOBLE SOUL, LINDSEY ROSE FROM A SMALL TOWN IN RURAL SOUTH CAROLINA, A PLACE HE LOVED SO MUCH, TO BECOME A CONSTANT FIXTURE OF AMERICAN POLITICS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, AND A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH ALL OVER THE WORLD.
>> LINDSEY WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT A FAMILY MAN.
HIS WORLD REVOLVED AROUND MY MOTHER, HIS FAMILY, AND THOSE HE CONSIDERED SUCH, LIKE HIS LIFELONG FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES, STAFF, AND THE CITIZENS OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
GEOFF: GAVIN JACKSON FROM PUBLIC MEDIA STATION SOUTH CAROLINA ETV WAS AT THE MEMORIAL SERVICE TODAY AND JOINS ME FROM OUTSIDE THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
TAKE US INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL.
WHAT STRUCK YOU THE MOST ABOUT THE SERVICE TODAY?
GAVIN: WHAT STRUCK ME THE MOST TODAY WAS MAY BE WHAT FOLKS COULD NOT SEE AT HOME OR WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE SERVICE EVEN STARTED WHEN YOU HAVE THESE INTERNATIONAL DIGNITARIES, INCLUDING UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY AS WELL AS PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.
THEY WERE MINGLING AND TALKING.
I KNOW THAT HAPPENS TO A LOT OF THESE MAJOR EVENTS BUT IT WAS ALMOST FITTING FOR THE LATE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM TO ESSENTIALLY HOST AN INTERNATIONAL CONFAB AS HIS LAST GOING AWAY MEMORIAL.
PART OF THE TWO-PART SERIES OF HIM BEING REMEMBERED NOT JUST IN WASHINGTON BUT ALSO IN SOUTH CAROLINA TOMORROW.
TO HAVE FOLKS FROM BACK HOME IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER THERE, TO THESE INTERNATIONAL FIGURES, IT WAS FASCINATING TO SEE THAT CONTRAST AND TO HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT.
TRUMP AND GRAHAM BOTH HAD A VERY FAST ANY FRIENDSHIP OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY BOTH RAN FOR PRESIDENT.
HE REFERENCED THAT IN HIS REMARKS.
ONE OF THE FUNNIER MOMENTS DURING THAT EULOGY FROM THE PRESIDENT, TALK ABOUT HOW WE GIVE AWAY THE SENATOR’S PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER HE HAD FOR 20 SOME YEARS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL DURING THE HEATED TIMES.
HE HAD TO CHANGE THE PHONE NUMBER, BUT MOVING FORWARD, THEY BECAME CLOSE FRIENDS.
HE SAIND LINDSEY KEPT CALLING ME FOR 10 YEARS NOW.
IT WAS A LIGHTHEARTED MOMENT THAT SENATOR GRAHAM WOULD HAVE APPRECIATED.
NOT JUST THE DIGNITARIES HE WORKED WITH BUT ALSO THE LIGHTHEARTED NATURE OF THE SERVICE.
HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ENJOYED MORE JOKES AT HIS OWN EXPENSE.
GEOFF: YOU HAVE COVERED SENATOR GRAHAM FOR YEARS.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THE ARCS FROM JOHN MCCANN’S WINGMEN TO DONALD TRUMP’S CRITIC AND THEN STRONGEST ALLY?
WHICH WAS THE REAL LINDSEY GRAHAM?
GAVIN: THE ONE THAT KEPT FIGHTING FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND DELIVERING FOR SOUTH CAROLINA.
THESE ARE THE PARTS OF HIS CAREER WERE TANGENTIAL TO THAT BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GET THINGS DONE.
IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE, HE HAD TO ADAPT.
HE MAYBE WAS NOT STRONG ENOUGH AFTER JANUARY 6 DESPITE HIS WORDS ON THE SENATE FLOOR.
HE CAME BACK TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP TO GET HIM REELECTED.
SO, IN DOING THAT, HE GOT TO ADVANCE NOT ONLY HIS AGENDA FOR SOUTH CAROLINA BUT ALSO FOR THE NATION, AS WELL AS THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE.
NATIONAL SECURITY WAS A HUGE FACTOR FOR SENATOR GRAHAM AND HE WANTED TO SEE THAT TAKE PLACE.
HE WANTED TO PUSH HIS AGENDA.
WE ARE SEEING THAT PLAY OUT NOW WITH WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND WAS HAPPENING IN IRAN.
THAT IS WHAT COUNTED FOR LINDSEY GRAHAM, TO GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN PLACE TO PAY ATTENTION TO HIS WORLDVIEW AND PUSH HIS FOREIGN-POLICY.
YES, IT WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE DAYS OF JOHN MCCAIN AND LI EBERMAN, BUT HE HAD TO ADAPT.
THIS PARTY HAS CHANGED.
IN ORDER TO BE RELEVANT IN THE PARTY, HE HAD TO CHANGE AS WELL.
GEOFF: DARLINE GRAHAM WAS THEIR MORNING THE BROTHER WHO RAISED HER.
SHE NOT OFFER RIGHTS -- RESIDES HIS FORMER SENATE SEAT.
THE ELECTION IS TWO WEEKS AWAY.
WHAT DOES THE CAMPAIGN LOOK LIKE?
GAVIN: IT IS PRETTY MUCH WIDE OPEN.
WE JUST ALL FILING CLOSE FOR THE CAMPAIGN END TODAY.
WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN CANDIDATES VYING TO BE THE NEXT REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR THE SENATE SEAT TO FACE DEMOCRAT ANNIE ANDREWS IN NOVEMBER, AS WELL AS OTHER CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT.
DARLINE GRAHAM WAS APPOINTED TO FILL THE REMAINDER OF HER BROTHER TERM, AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND SAID SHE WAS INTERESTED IN RUNNING AND HAVE SUPPORT FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WE KNOW FROM PREVIOUS RACES IN THE STATE THAT HIS SUPPORT IS NOT NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO A WIN, WHICH IS WHY OTHER FOLKS INCLUDING A FORMER GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, RALPH NORMAN, IS THROWING HIS NAME IN THE RACE.
HE IS UP ON THE AIR WITH ADS RIGHT NOW.
HE CAME IN THIRD IN THE REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGN.
THERE’S A LOT OF ACTIVISTS WERE MOTIVATED FOR THIS RACE BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL PRIMARY WHICH ALREADY SEES VERY LITTLE TURNOUT.
THIS IS A SPECIAL PRIMARY HAPPENING IN AUGUST AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT BE AROUND.
IT WILL BE A LOT OF NAME ID AND WHO YOU KNOW.
A LOT OF MOTIVATED VOTERS WILL BE TURNING OUT.
POLLING SUGGESTED THERE IS NO CLEAR FRONT RUNNER SO WE WILL PROBABLY SEE A RUNOFF.
THERE WILL BE A LOT HAPPENING IN SOUTH CAROLINA OVER THE NEXT COMING DAYS.
TOMORROW, WE WILL SEE THE SERVICE HONORING THE LATE SENATOR AT THE STATE CAPITAL WITH THE FLYOVER AND THE CEREMONY AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.
A LOT WILL CONTINUE WITH THE LATE SENATOR.
GEOFF: GAVIN JACKSON FROM PUBLIC MEDIA STATION SOUTH CAROLINA ETV, THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME FOR US.
GAVIN: THANKS, GEOFF.
♪ AMNA: WE START THE DAY’S OTHER HEADLINES IN SOUTHERN JAPAN, WHERE A POWERFUL EARTHQUAKE DAMAGED BUILDINGS, ROADS AND BRIDGES EARLIER TODAY.
THE 6.8-MAGNITUDE QUAKE STRUCK JAPAN’S SOUTHERN MAIN ISLAND OF KYUSHU, TRIGGERING A TSUNAMI WARNING THAT’S SINCE BEEN LIFTED.
IN AND AROUND THE CITY OF KUMAMOTO, THE QUAKE SHOOK CITY CAMERAS AND TOPPLED BUILDINGS, INCLUDING SOME CENTURIES-OLD SHRINES.
OTHER STRUCTURES CAUGHT FIRE.
OFFICIALS SAY THAT EMERGENCY CREWS ARE RACING TO RESCUE DOZENS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FEARED TRAPPED INSIDE A SHOPPING MALL.
FOLLOWING THE QUAKE, JAPAN’S PRIME MINISTER WARNED THAT THE THREAT WAS ONGOING.
>> TO THOSE IN AREAS THAT EXPERIENCED STRONG SHAKING, THE RISK OF BUILDING COLLAPSES AND LANDSLIDES REMAINS HIGH.
PLEASE AVOID ENTERING DANGEROUS AREAS AND TAKE ALL PRECAUTIONS TO ENSURE YOUR SAFETY.
OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, PLEASE REMAIN ALERT FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF AFTERSHOCKS WITH A MAXIMUM SEISMIC INTENSITY OF 7.
AMNA: JAPANESE MEDIA IS REPORTING THAT HOSPITALS IN THE AFFECTED AREAS ADMITTED DOZENS OF INJURED PEOPLE.
POLICE SAY ONE PERSON DIED IN A COLLAPSED HOUSE.
BUT, OFFICIALS SAY THERE HAVE BEEN NO REPORTS OF DAMAGE TO MAJOR PUBLIC UTILITIES, INCLUDING SEVERAL NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NEARBY.
IN SEATTLE, POLICE SAY THAT THE 15-YEAR-OLD ARRESTED DURING THIS WEEKEND’S MASS SHOOTING AT A FOOD FESTIVAL USED AN UNTRACEABLE GHOST GUN WITH AN EXTENDED MAGAZINE.
AT A PRESS CONFERENCE, OFFICIALS SAID THEY CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OTHER POSSIBLE SUSPECTS, AND BELIEVE THE VIOLENCE WAS GANG-RELATED.
MEANTIME -- >> ♪ THIS LITTLE LIGHT OF MINE ♪ AMNA: AT A VIGIL LAST NIGHT, PEOPLE GRIEVED THOSE WHO WERE KILLED IN THE SHOOTING.
THEY’VE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS 44-YEAR-OLD CARLOS ISRAEL SANCHEZ VILLALBA AND 56-YEAR-OLD ASHLEY WHITEHEAD.
OFFICIALS SAY THE THIRD FATALITY WAS A 19-YEAR-OLD GUNMAN.
AT LEAST FOUR OTHER PEOPLE WERE INJURED.
WE HAVE AN UPDATE FOR A STORY WE BROUGHT YOU LAST WEEK.
THE GEORGIA TEENAGER WHO SHOT AND KILLED FOUR PEOPLE AT APALACHEE HIGH SCHOOL IN 2024 WAS SENTENCED TO LIFE IN PRISON TODAY WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE.
LAST WEEK, COLT GREY PLEADED GUILTY TO 55 COUNTS STEMMING FROM THE ATTACK.
GRAY WAS 14 AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOTING AND WAS CHARGED AS AN ADULT.
FLORIDA IS SET TO BECOME THE FIRST STATE IN NEARLY 10 YEARS TO CARRY OUT TWO EXECUTIONS IN A SINGLE DAY.
EARLIER, A FORMER POLICE OFFICER WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR KILLING A YOUNG GIRL IN THE LATE 1980’S.
AND AN 80-YEAR-OLD PRISONER IS SET TO BE EXECUTED THIS EVENING FOR KILLING HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND’S PARENTS IN 1986.
UNDER GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS, FLORIDA IS CONTINUING AN ACCELERATED PACE OF EXECUTIONS, WITH AT LEAST 11 SO FAR THIS YEAR.
IN 2025, FLORIDA EXECUTED 19 PRISONERS, THE MOST IN A SINGLE YEAR SINCE THE DEATH PENALTY WAS REINSTATED NEARLY 50 YEARS AGO.
ACROSS PARTS OF SPAIN AND FRANCE, FIREFIGHTERS ARE TRYING TO REIN IN MASSIVE WILDFIRES BEFORE A SCORCHING HEAT WAVE SWEEPS THROUGH THE REGION.
SPAIN’S PRIME MINISTER PEDRO SANCHEZ SAYS THE COUNTRY IS "TURNING THE TIDE" AGAINST BLAZES NEAR MADRID.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE BEING ALLOWED TO RETURN HOME, BUT SANCHEZ WARNED THAT DIFFICULT HOURS ARE STILL AHEAD.
MEANTIME IN FRANCE, OFFICIALS ORDERED ANOTHER 4000 PEOPLE TO EVACUATE COASTAL AREAS, AS FIREFIGHTERS STRUGGLE TO KEEP A MASSIVE BLAZE NEAR BORDEAUX UNDER CONTROL.
ONE FIRE OFFICIAL SAID THE WEATHER IS COMPLICATING THEIR EFFORTS.
>> THE SITUATION HAS RATHER CALMED DOWN, BUT WE CAN SEE BEHIND US OVER THERE, A LARGE NUMBER OF HOTSPOTS STARTING TO EMERGE.
AND WITH THE TEMPERATURE AND UNFORTUNATELY THE WIND EXPECTED IN THE AREA, THESE HOTSPOTS COULD BECOME THE SOURCE OF A NEW FIRE OUTBREAK.
AMNA: ONE FIRE IN SOUTHWEST FRANCE GREW SO STRONG THAT ITS SMOKE COLUMN BECAME A THUNDERSTORM, CREATING ITS OWN LIGHTNING AND WINDS.
IT’S THE COUNTRY’S FIRST-RECORDED INSTANCE OF THE PHENOMENON.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID TODAY HE’S INVITING A TEENAGE LIFEGUARD TO THE WHITE HOUSE TO RECEIVE A HIGH CIVILIAN HONOR AFTER VIDEO OF HIS DRAMATIC RESCUE OF A YOUNG BOY WENT VIRAL.
THIS FOOTAGE SHOWS THE 16-YEAR-OLD CLINGING TO THE CHILD IN ROUGH SURF AT A BEACH IN SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA LAST WEEKEND.
THEY EVENTUALLY MADE IT OUT SAFELY.
TRUMP’S SON, ERIC, WAS AMONG THOSE WHO SHARED THE VIDEO.
HE CALLED FOR THE TEENAGER TO RECEIVE AN OFFICIAL RECOGNITION FOR HIS EFFORTS.
IT WASN’T IMMEDIATELY CLEAR WHETHER THE INVITATION HAS BEEN ACCEPTED.
ON WALL STREET TODAY, STOCKS ENDED MIXED AS WEAKNESS IN AI SHARES KEPT A LID ON MARKET SENTIMENT.
THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE ADDED MORE THAN 500 POINTS.
THE NASDAQ LOST GROUND, GIVING BACK ABOUT 55 POINTS.
AND THE S&P 500 MANAGED A SLIGHT GAIN ON THE DAY.
AND ARTIST BETYE SAAR, WHO WAS CENTRAL TO THE BLACK ARTS MOVEMENT OF THE 1960’S AND 1970’S, HAS DIED.
A LEADING PRACTITIONER OF ASSEMBLAGE, SAAR TRANSFORMED EVERYDAY OBJECTS INTO SCULPTURES OVER THE COURSE OF A SIX-DECADE CAREER.
HER MOST FAMOUS WORK, "THE LIBERATION OF AUNT JEMIMA" FROM THE EARLY 1970’S, TRANSFORMED A DEROGATORY STEREOTYPE INTO A REVOLUTIONARY, ARMED WITH RIFLES AND OTHER WEAPONS.
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MUSEUM OF CONTEMPORARY ART, WHICH OFTEN SHOWCASED HER WORK, POSTED A TRIBUTE TO SAAR TODAY FEATURING HER REFLECTIONS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF ART.
>> SINCE I WAS A CHILD, ART HAS BEEN IMPORTANT.
IT FEEDS AN INNER NEED THAT PEOPLE DON’T EVEN KNOW THEY HAVE IT UNTIL IT’S TAKEN AWAY.
AMNA: SAAR WORKED WELL INTO HER 90’S, TELLING "THE NEW YORK TIMES" IN 2024 THAT SHE FEELS LUCKY TO HAVE ART AS PART OF HER LIFE.
THE GALLERY THAT REPRESENTS SAAR ANNOUNCED SHE PASSED AWAY IN HER SLEEP ON SUNDAY.
BETYE SAAR WAS JUST FOUR DAYS SHY OF HER 100TH BIRTHDAY.
STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWS HOUR," NEW REPORTS SHOW THE REAL-WORLD CONSEQUENCES OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S CUTS TO HIV FUNDING.
THE PRESIDENT’S ALLIES ON A FEDERAL BOARD MOVE TO WEAKEN PROTECTIONS FOR HISTORIC SITES NATIONWIDE.
AND A RENOWNED BARITONE WORKS TO REVIVE AND CELEBRATE THE UNITED STATES’ MUSICAL TRADITIONS.
>> THIS IS THE "PBS NEWS HOUR" FROM THE DAVID M. RUBENSTEIN STUDIO AT WETA IN WASHINGTON, HEADQUARTERS OF PBS NEWS.
AMNA: THE 26TH ANNUAL INTERNATIONAL AIDS CONFERENCE IS UNDERWAY IN RIO THIS WEEK, AND THE COLLAPSE OF AMERICAN AND INTERNATIONAL FUNDING FOR HIV/AIDS IS ON THE MINDS OF MANY.
A NEW REPORT DETAILS THE IMPACT OF CUTS TO THE PROGRAM KNOWN AS PEPFAR, WHICH HAS BEEN CREDITED WITH SAVING OVER 26 MILLION LIVES SINCE IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2003 BY PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM HAS MORE.
WILLIAM: AMNA, THAT REPORT WAS DONE BY THE GLOBAL HIV/AIDS NON-PROFIT AMFAR.
IT SURVEYED MORE THAN 166 ORGANIZATIONS IN 46 COUNTRIES ABOUT THE IMPACT OF PEPFAR CUTS, AND THE BROADER DISMANTLING OF USAID BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
IT FOUND THAT MORE THAN 1700 TREATMENT SITES GLOBALLY HAD BEEN CLOSED.
FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THIS MEANS, WE’RE JOINED BY DR.
ATUL GAWANDE.
HE WAS THE FORMER ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR OF USAID UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN, IS A WRITER AND A SURGEON AT BRIGHAM AND WOMEN’S HOSPITAL IN BOSTON.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE PROGRAM.
I MENTIONED THE STUDY FROM AMFAR.
THE DETAILS WILL BE PRESENTED TOMORROW BUT A LOT OF THIS WE’VE ALREADY SEEN.
I MENTIONED OVER 1700 SITES HAVE CLOSED.
THAT IS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET TREATMENT, PREVENTATIVE MEDICATIONS, ETC.
73% OF GROUPS THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE GROUPS -- THE SEX WORKERS, MEN WHO HAVE SEX WITH MEN -- THOSE GROUPS REPORT THEY HAVE STOPPED PROVIDING AT LEAST ONE TYPE OF SERVICE.
MORE THAN 63% OF GROUPS WHO PROVIDE MEDICATION TO PREVENT MOTHER TO CHILD HIV TRANSMISSION, WHICH WE KNOW IS SUCH A POWERFUL INTERVENTION, HAVE REPORTED DISRUPTIONS.
DOES ANY OF THIS SURPRISE YOU, AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE LARGER FIGHT AGAINST HIV-AIDS?
DR.
GAWANDE: ON ONE HAND, IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME.
ON THE OTHER, WE ARE FINALLY STARTING TO SEE SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT HAPPENED.
HERE’S WHAT I TOOK AWAY THAT IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT.
SOME KEY PILLARS OF FIGHTING HIV IS BEING ABLE TO GET SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE SHUNNED FROM THE MEDICAL SYSTEM.
PEOPLE YOU NAMED, LIKE SEX WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO INJECT IV DRUGS, GAY OR TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.
THE SECOND THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS NOT ONLY GET PEOPLE ON TREATMENT, YOU HAVE TO CONTACT, TRACE AND TEST PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE IN CONTACT WITH.
AND TESTING AND PREVENTION WENT WAY DOWN.
THE NUMBERS ARE NOT AS SEXY AS THE CLOSING OF THE CLINIC, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT START TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE A SURGE OF HIV RETURN.
THE THIRD THING IS THERE WERE SOME REPORTS, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM 22 NEONATAL CLINICS AND NETWORKS OF HOSPITALS IN AFRICA WHERE NEWBORNS COME TO.
THEY FOUND THAT MOTHERS HAD A 50% JUMP IN HIV RATES, AND OVER 300% JUMP IN THOSE PLACES FINDING WOMEN WHO WERE NOT ON TREATMENT.
THAT MEANS MORE CHILDREN ARE NOW AT RISK OF BEING BORN WITH HIV, BUT WE WON’T KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TAKEN AWAY THE TESTING, TAKING AWAY PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.
WILLIAM: TAKING OUR EYES OFF THIS EPIDEMIC.
I WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING THAT WAS SAID RECENTLY BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF U.N.
AIDS.
>> THE QUESTION IS NO LONGER WHETHER WE CAN END AIDS.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO END AIDS.
THE END IS NO LONGER LIMITED BY SCIENCE, IT IS LIMITED BY EQUALITY AND POLITICAL CHOICES.
WILLIAM: IT SEEMS LIKE THE POLITICAL CHOICES, NOT THE SCIENTIFIC CHOICES, THE POLITICAL CHOICES ARE MOVING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.
DR.
GAWANDE: 100%.
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS FIRST TERM ACTUALLY SET THE GOAL WHICH SEEMED LIKE A CRAZY GOAL.
END HIV IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS BY 2030.
SINCE THEN, THE TECHNOLOGIES TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE HAVE DEVELOPED, INCLUDING A WHOLE RANGE OF COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKFORCE GOING AFTER MAKING SURE PEOPLE DON’T FALL OUT OF THE SYSTEM, THE DATA SYSTEMS.
WHEN THEN AN INJECTION TO PREVENT HIV FOR SIX MONTHS.
WILLIAM: A REMARKABLE DRUG.
DR.
GAWANDE: THE SCIENCE JOURNAL CALLED AT THE DISCOVERY OF 2025.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS ROLLING IT OUT BUT NOT LIKE YOU ARE ON A CAMPAIGN TO END HIV BY 2030.
WHEN YOU HAVE SAID SOUTH AFRICA IS NO LONGER A PARTNER IN HIV AT ALL, A PLACE WITH ONE QUARTER OF THE WORLD’S HIV CASES.
WE DON’T EVEN PARTNER WITH THEM AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT OF HIV VACCINES, AND HIV VACCINES HAVE BEEN LARGELY REMOVED FROM FEDERAL FUNDING.
SO, WE ARE ON A PATH THAT IS NOT ONLY NOT ENDING HIV, IT HAS LOST THAT COMMITMENT TO SAYING WE WILL EVEN PREVENT IT FROM HER SURGERY.
-- FROM RESEARCHING.
WILLIAM: THE STATE DEPARTMENT ARGUES THE METHODOLOGIES WERE FLAWED.
THEY ARGUE THAT PREVENTATIVE AND LIFESAVING TREATMENTS AND MEDICATIONS ARE STILL GETTING OUT THROUGH DIFFERENT ROUTES, DIFFERENT PARTNERS, DIFFERENT MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING.
AND THE IDEA THERE IS SOME CATASTROPHE HERE IS MISGUIDED.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?
DR.
GAWANDE: THEY HAVE MADE DEALS WITH GOVERNMENTS TO CARRY OUT THE PROGRAMS.
THOSE DEALS ARE WITH FAR SMALLER DOLLARS, AND SAID THEY DON’T GO AS FAR.
THEY DON’T PROVIDE DEDICATED SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SHUNNED BY THE GOVERNMENT, MEDICAL SYSTEM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND WE ALREADY SEE INFORMATION LIKE I OUTLINED INDICATING PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE PREVENTION, THEY ARE NOT GETTING THE TESTING.
AND THERE ARE SIGNS EVEN OF TREATMENT NOT GETTING TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, LIKE IN THE STUDY OF MOTHERS WITH HIV AND ARE ARRIVING PREGNANT AND NOT ON TREATMENT.
WILLIAM: I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS OTHER OUTBREAK AND THAT IS EBOLA.
IT IS 3200 CASES RIGHT NOW IN THE DRC CONGO.
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE ABOUT HOW THAT OUTBREAK IS GOING?
DR.
GAWANDE: NOT WELL.
THIS IS NOW THE THIRD LARGEST OUTBREAK OF EBOLA IN HISTORY AND IT IS ON ITS WAY TO BEING THE WORST OUTBREAK EVER.
AND THE REASONS WHY IS THAT OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND WAS A SETBACK FROM THE VERY BEGINNING BY THE DESTRUCTION OF A LOT OF HER INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPACITY.
WE STILL HAVE A FULL-TIME ADVISOR WITH EXPERTISE ON EBOLA IN THE COUNTRY.
NOT THERE ANYMORE.
AND THE INVESTMENTS ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE.
WE HAVE NOW GOT A MASSIVE SPEND THAT IS STILL NOT KEEPING TRACK WITH THIS DISEASE.
80% OF THE CASES ARE OCCURRING IN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT EVEN ON PEOPLE’S CONTACT LISTS FOR TRACING.
SO, WE’VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO AND WE ARE NOT DOING THE WORK TO GET IT UNDER CONTROL.
WILLIAM: DR.
ATUL GAWANDE, ALWAYS GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
THANK YOU.
DR.
GAWANDE: THANK YOU.
GEOFF: IT’S BEEN FOUR YEARS SINCE THE SUPREME COURT’S DOBBS DECISION OPENED THE DOOR TO STATE ABORTION BANS.
NOW, A NEW STUDY FINDS THOSE BANS ARE HURTING WOMEN WHO AREN’T SEEKING ABORTIONS AT ALL -- THEY’RE HAVING MISCARRIAGES.
THAT’S ACCORDING TO RESEARCHERS AT OREGON HEALTH AND SCIENCE UNIVERSITY.
AMNA: RESEARCHERS FOUND DELAYS IN MISCARRIAGE TREATMENT INCREASE THE RISK TO A WOMAN’S HEALTH AND FERTILITY, AND PROLONG THE GRIEF OF A LOST PREGNANCY.
THAT WEIGHS HEAVILY ON THE DOCTORS TREATING THESE WOMEN.
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT SARAH VARNEY TRAVELED TO KENTUCKY AND TEXAS, TWO STATES WITH NEAR-TOTAL ABORTION BANS, TO SPEAK WITH OB/GYN’S ABOUT HOW THESE LAWS ARE CHANGING HOW THEY PRACTICE MEDICINE.
>> WANT TO GO OUTSIDE?
SARAH: ALICIA GREW UP IN KENTUCKY.
AFTER MEDICAL SCHOOL, SHE AND HER HUSBAND MOVED TO NEW YORK FOR HER RESIDENCY IN OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY.
>> THERE IS ME.
MY FIRST RESIDENCY.
SARAH: AFTER GRADUATING, THE FAMILY MOVED TO THIS KENTUCKY COMMUNITY IN JUNE 2022.
>> HI.
HOW WAS YOUR DAY?
>> GOOD.
SARAH: HER THREE BOYS KNOW THAT THEIR MOM DELIVERS BABIES, BUT DR.
FIELDS SAYS PRACTICING MEDICINE HERE IN KENTUCKY HAS CHANGED SINCE THE STATE’S NEAR-TOTAL ABORTION BANS WENT INTO EFFECT ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO.
>> WE HAD A CASE NOT THAT LONG AGO WHERE THE PATIENT HAD BEEN SEEN.
SHE HAD A REALLY HORRIBLE PREGNANCY HISTORY.
MULTIPLE DELIVERIES AND LOSSES.
ULTIMATELY CAME IN LABORING, BUT SHE STILL HAD A PREGNANCY WITH A HEARTBEAT.
AND SHE WAS BEGGING US TO DO SOMETHING, TO PLEASE MAKE THIS BE DONE.
SHE KNEW THAT AT 17 WEEKS, A PREGNANCY COULD NOT SURVIVE ON THE OUTSIDE AND SHE WAS JUST STUCK WAITING.
ULTIMATELY, WE WERE STUCK WAITING UNTIL SHE GOT INFECTED AND WAS SICK ENOUGH TO INTERVENE AND DO SOMETHING.
SARAH: UNDER KENTUCKY LAW, PHYSICIANS CAN PERFORM ABORTIONS ONLY WHEN PATIENTS FACE DEATH OR PERMANENT DAMAGE TO A MAJOR ORGAN.
THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS FOR PREGNANCIES RESULTING FROM RAPE OR INCEST OR FATAL FETAL CONDITIONS.
HOW DID YOU DEAL WITH WATCHING THIS PATIENT OF YOURS BEING IN PAIN AND SUPPER?
-- SUFFER.
>> IT IS DIFFICULT TO SIT BACK AND FEEL LIKE YOUR HANDS ARE TIED AND FEEL LIKE YOU CANNOT HELP THEM.
YOU CAN SIT WITH THEM, YOU CAN HOLD SPACE WITH THEM, YOU CAN SUPPORT THEM, BUT YOU CAN’T DO ANYTHING FOR THEM.
SARAH: DOCTOR’S HERE FACE UP TO FIVE YEARS IN PRISON AND A LOSS OF THE MEDICAL LICENSE IF THEY GO AGAINST THE BAN.
>> THAT IS VERY TERRIFIED AND HUMBLING, TO WORK SO LONG AND HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT IN MY CAREER AND FINALLY BE PRACTICING.
ANY SORT OF LEGAL CHARGE, THAT WOULD TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY, THAT IS SCARY.
I’M A SOLE INCOME PROVIDER FOR MY FAMILY.
THEY DEPEND ON ME FOR EVERYTHING FINANCIALLY AND HEALTH INSURANCE.
THAT IS A HUGE RISK.
>> WE ARE PRACTICING IN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SO, SO SCARED.
AND THAT IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO PRACTICE.
SARAH: 800 MILES AWAY IN HOUSTON, DR.
BEASLEY FEELS THE SAME DREAD.
THE PRISON SENTENCES HERE ARE STEEP.
UP TO 99 YEARS AND THE THREAT OF CIVIL LAWSUITS BY SO-CALLED BOUNTY HUNTERS.
>> SO WHEN YOU ARE SAYING CAN THIS PERSON HAVE AN ABORTION, YOU ARE NOT JUST THINKING IS THAT WHAT A PATIENT NEEDS.
YOU MAY ALSO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS THIS GOING TO MEAN FOR ME?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN IF I MAKE THE WRONG DECISION?
WHAT IF SOMEBODY SUES ME?
AM I GOING TO STILL BE ABLE TO PRACTICE MEDICINE?
AM I GOING TO STILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY?
AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE MY FAMILY?
WILL I BE IN JAIL?
SARAH: DR.
BEASLEY GREW UP HERE AND TODAY SHE LIVES IN A LEAFY HOUSTON NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HER HUSBAND AND THREE KIDS.
AS AN OB/GYN, SHE TREATS MOSTLY POOR AND UNINSURED TEXANS.
>> THEY WALK INTO THE ROOM AND ARE UNSURE IF THEY CAN TRUST THE INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE GETTING FROM THEIR PHYSICIAN.
SARAH: FROM YOU.
>> RIGHT.
I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONVINCE SOMEONE THAT I AM TRUSTWORTHY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE IN.
>> 31 AYES -- SARAH: REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THE TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CLARIFY WHEN PHYSICIANS LIKE DR.
BEASLEY CAN INTERVENE TO PREVENT A MEDICAL CATASTROPHE.
THE BOARD RECENTLY DISCIPLINED THREE TEXAS DOCTORS WHO DELAYED GIVING MEDICAL CARE TO TWO PREGNANT PATIENTS EXPERIENCE IN MISCARRIAGE.
THE WOMEN DIED AS A RESULT.
>> FROM THE LAWS I HAVE READ THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS, I THINK THEY ARE ACTUALLY VERY CLEAR.
SARAH: DR.
FRANCIS SAYS THE CONFUSION AND HESITATION EXPERIENCED BY DR.
FIELDS AND DR.
BEASLEY IS UNNECESSARY.
SHE WORKS AT A HOSPITAL IN INDIANA, TAKING CARE OF WOMEN IN LABOR OR THOSE HOSPITALIZED FOR PREGNANCY COMPLICATIONS OR EMERGENCIES.
>> I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY DOCTORS HAVE NOT ACTUALLY READ THE LAW OR HAVE NOT TALKED TO LAWYERS WHO ARE ACCURATELY INTERPRETING WHAT THE LAW MEANS.
SARAH: WE MET HER IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
WHERE DR.
FRANCIS SPENT PART OF HER TIME ADVOCATING AGAINST ABORTION.
AS THE HEAD OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF PRO-LIFE OB/GYN’S.
>> I WONDER HOW MANY OF THESE PHYSICIANS THAT ARE AFRAID TO ACT, HAS ANYONE TOLD THEM THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DASHED TEXAS FOR INSTANCE HAS DOCUMENTED HUNDREDS OF TERMINATIONS OF PREGNANCY SINCE THEIR LAW WENT INTO EFFECT FOR THEIR LIFE OF THE MOTHER EXCEPTION.
NOT A SINGLE DOCTOR HAS BEEN CHARGED OR PROSECUTED BECAUSE OF THEIR INTERVENTION IN THAT SITUATION.
SARAH: THEY ARE READING THE SAME LAWS YOU ARE READING AND WORKING IN HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THAT ARE INTERPRETING THIS TO MEAN HOW SICK DO YOU HAVE TO BE THAT YOU COULDN’T GET AHEAD OF A SEPTIC INFECTION, THAT YOU COULDN’T DO AN ABORTION UNTIL YOU HAVE A FEVER OF SOME AMOUNT, RIGHT?
>> THERE IS NOTHING IN ANY LAW THAT SAYS A WOMAN HAS TO BE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SICK BEFORE YOU CAN INTERVENE.
IT SAYS IN YOUR REASONABLE MEDICAL JUDGMENT, IF YOU THINK THIS CONDITION POTENTIALLY POSES -- OR POSES A LIFE-THREATENING RISK -- SARAH: IT SAYS TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A WOMAN.
>> SURE.
SARAH: IT DOES NOT SAY POTENTIAL, IT IS NOT SAY POSSIBLE.
>> THERE’S NO OTHER TIME IN MEDICINE WHERE WE WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE IS ACTIVELY DYING.
IF THERE WAS A TIME WE COULD INTERVENE.
SOMETIMES WOMEN COME IN AND THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF DEATH AND YOU HAVEN’T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE.
BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANOTHER TYPE IN MEDICINE OR LAW THAT DICTATES MEDICINE WHERE WE INTERPRET SAVING A PATIENT’S LIFE TO ONLY MEAN INTERVENING ONCE THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF DEATH.
SARAH: DR.
BEASLEY ARGUES THERE ARE NO LAWS THAT CAN ACCOUNT FOR ALL THE COMPLEXITIES OF PREGNANCY.
>> IT IS LIKE AT MY HOUSE WAS ON FIRE AND THE FIREFIGHTERS CAME IN THEIR TRUCK AND THEY CONNECTED THEIR HOSES AND THEY HAD ALL THE WATER AND HAD ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEEDED, AND THEY JUST STOOD THERE AND SAID I CAN’T HELP YOU.
THAT’S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
SARAH: DR.
FRANCIS SAYS SHE’S NEVER FELT THAT WAY IN INDIANA.
>> JUST MY GROUP ALONE, I DON’T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, THE PATIENTS I CAN THINK OF, IT IS AT LEAST DOZENS OF PATIENTS WHO WE HAVE INTERVENE IN A PRE-VIABLE STATE BECAUSE SHE WAS FACING A POTENTIALLY LIFE-THREATENING COMPLICATION.
AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT EVEN GOTTEN A SECOND LOOK FROM THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF OUR PATIENTS.
SARAH: DR.
FIELDS SAYS SHE WOULD LOVE TO DO JUST THAT, WITH THE LAWS IN KENTUCKY HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED HOW SHE’S ALLOWED TO PRACTICE MEDICINE.
WHY HAVE YOU CHOSEN TO STAY?
>> I THINK FOR EVERY DAY I HAVE A HARD SCENARIO OF ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS THAT I WANT TO BANG MY FIST AGAINST THE WALL, I HAVE MOMENTS ON THE OTHERS WHERE I HAVE THOSE PATIENTS THAT ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE PROVIDER IN THE STATE, IN A RURAL AREA THAT WILL LISTEN TO THEM WITHOUT SHAME, WITHOUT GUILT AND VALIDATE THEIR EXPERIENCES.
THAT IS WHY I STAY BECAUSE THEY DESERVE ACCESS TO GOOD CARE.
SARAH: HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF LEAVING TEXAS?
>> I THINK EVERYONE PROBABLY HAS.
IT’S REALLY HARD TO PRACTICE MEDICINE WITH YOUR HANDS TIED BEHIND YOUR BACK.
BUT, THIS IS WHERE I AM FROM.
MY HOME IS HERE, MY FAMILY IS HERE, MY COMMUNITY IS HERE.
THIS IS WHERE I BUILT MY LIFE.
SO, JUST PACKING THAT UP TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND START OVER IS DIFFICULT.
BUT ALSO, I CARE ABOUT MY COMMUNITY.
SARAH: FOR "PBS NEWS HOUR," I’M SARAH VARNEY IN HOUSTON.
AMNA: AN ADVISORY COUNCIL PACKED WITH ALLIES OF PRESIDENT TRUMP VOTED FRIDAY TO WEAKEN FEDERAL OVERSIGHT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AFFECTING HISTORIC SITES.
GEOFF: CRITICS OF THE PRESIDENT’S CONTROVERSIAL PROJECTS IN WASHINGTON ARE CONCERNED THAT THIS MOVE WILL OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO ENDANGERING PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SENIOR ARTS CORRESPONDENT JEFFREY BROWN LOOKS AT THE BIGGER PICTURE BEHIND THIS LATEST MOVE FOR OUR ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS.
JEFFREY: PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PROPOSED ARCH ON A TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA.
NATIVE AMERICAN CULTURAL SITES IN NEW MEXICO’S CHACO CANYON.
TWO OF THE THOUSANDS OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES, SITES, AND MORE THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY A PROPOSED CHANGE TO RULES GOVERNING CONSTRUCTION ON FEDERAL LANDS.
PLUS, A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE TO PLACE SIGNS OUTSIDE THE SMITHSONIAN NATIONAL MUSEUM OF AMERICAN HISTORY CALLING INTO QUESTION THE EXHIBITS INSIDE.
JOINING ME TO DISCUSS BOTH, PHILLIP KENNICOTT, CULTURE CRITIC FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST."
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
LET’S START WITH THIS PROPOSED CHANGE TO WHAT IS KNOWN AS SECTION 106 OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT OF 1966.
TELL US HOW IT WORKS NOW AND WHAT MIGHT CHANGE.
PHILLIP: AT THIS POINT IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO DEVELOP A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR MAKE CHANGES THAT WOULD IMPACT A FEDERALLY, HISTORICALLY PROTECTED SITE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ONE OF CONSULTATION.
THEY HAVE TO TALK TO THE STATES, POTENTIALLY NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO SOLICIT INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
WHAT JUST HAPPENED IS THE FEDERALLY APPOINTED BODY THAT CONTROLS THIS PROCESS HAS JUST ISSUED A NEW SET OF RULES THAT ESSENTIALLY GOT THE LAW.
IT WOULD MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REVIEW.
IT WOULD MINIMIZE THE TYPES OF IMPACTS THAT ARE RELEVANT AND IT WOULD EFFECTIVELY CUT THE PUBLIC ENTIRELY OUT OF THE PROCESS IF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES THEY DON’T WANT TO SOLICIT YOUR OPINION.
JEFFREY: IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL IMPACT -- I MENTIONED TWO THAT ARE WELL KNOWN, THE CONTROVERSIAL ARCH IN D.C.
AND C HACO CANYON IN NEW MEXICO.
WHAT OTHER SITES ARE POTENTIALLY IMPACTED?
PHILLIP: IT IS POTENTIALLY COMING HOME TO A SITE ANYWHERE NEAR YOU.
IT WOULD IMPACT HISTORIC SITES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, LARGE AND SMALL.
IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY ALLOW THEORETICALLY IF A DEVELOPER WANTED TO MAKE CHANGES, SAY PUT A GOLF COALS -- GOLF COURSE NEXT AWAY HISTORIC LANDSCAPE, IF THEY GOT THE EAR OF THE PRESIDENT OR SOMEBODY WELL-PLACED WITHIN THE RELEVANT FEDERAL AGENCIES, THEY CAN GET THE PUBLIC PROCESS BASICALLY SHUT DOWN.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN DECIDE WE DON’T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND THAT WOULD SPEED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCE.
JEFFREY: THERE ARE CHANGES BEING LED BY A LITTLE-KNOWN MANGER TO SEE -- AGENCY, THE ADVISORY COUNCIL OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ALL WITH APPOINTEES BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.
DO YOU EXPECT LEGAL CHALLENGES?
PHILLIP: YES, I THINK THEY ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS.
ONCE THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU WILL SEE A NUMBER OF AVENUES PURSUED IN LEGAL CASES.
ONE OF THESE IS THE CHANGES ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROCEDURES OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH A LARGER LAW.
THEY ALSO CUT A LOT OF RELEVANT PARTIES, LIKE THE STATES AND TRIBES, OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
THEY WILL HAVE AN INTEREST IN CONTESTING THIS AS WELL.
JEFFREY: LET’S TURN TO THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DIRECTIVE TO PUT WARNING SIGNS OUTSIDE THE MUSEUM OF AMERICAN HISTORY.
WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THOSE SIGNS WILL SAY, BUT THIS IS CLEARLY PART OF THE CONTINUING ATTACK HE’S MADE AGAINST THE SMITHSONIAN AT LARGE.
WHAT DID YOU SEE HAPPENING?
PHILLIP: WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL PARTICULARS THE SIGNS WILL SAY BUT THEY SEEM TO BE AN EFFORT TO BASICALLY BREACH THE TRUST OF THE PUBLIC WITH THE SMITHSONIAN.
THE PRESIDENT HAS ISSUED A REPORT THAT CONDEMNS THE SMITHSONIAN FOR DIVISIVENESS, FOR ITS FOCUS ON WOKENESS OR DE I. BUT THESE REPORTS AND PREVIOUS EFFORTS TO BELITTLE AND BELEAGUERED THE INSTITUTION HAVEN’T HAD MUCH PURCHASE YET.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF THEATER THAT IS MEANT TO GARNER ATTENTION.
THE PRESIDENT HAS ORDERED THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, ANOTHER BELOVED PART OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT INTERACTS WITH THE PEOPLE, TO PUT THESE SIGNS UP.
WHAT IT’S DOING IS PITTING ONE OF THE BELOVED GROUP AGAINST ANOTHER, THE CONGRESSIONALLY CHARTERED SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION.
JEFFREY: TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS IN SOME WAYS.
DO YOU SEE ANY CONNECTING TISSUE HERE BETWEEN THE TWO THINGS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT?
PHILLIP: I THINK IT IS ABOUT CONTROLLING HOW WE TELL HISTORY, WHETHER THAT IS THE MATERIAL LEVEL OF A BUILDING OR WHEN IT COMES TO THE NARRATIVES THAT ARE INTERTWINED AND UNFOLDED IN A PLACE LIKE THE SMITHSONIAN.
AUTHORITARIAN MINDED REGIMES HAVE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THERE IS BOTH A MATERIAL AND INTELLECTUAL ASPECT OF HISTORY.
IF YOU CAN ERASE HISTORY IN THE MATERIAL WORLD, YOU ASSERT GREAT POWER TO ACTUALLY ERASE THE NARRATIVES IN PLACES LIKE THE SMITHSONIAN.
IF YOU HAVE THAT POWER, YOU CAN CONTROL THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE.
JEFFREY: THERE’S AN ARGUMENT THAT THESE REGULATIONS TAKE TOO LONG, THAT PROJECTS GO ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS, SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN THE WAY THIS IS GOVERNED.
PHILLIP: WELL, IF THEY CAN CITE A COUPLE OF CASES PERHAPS WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN BURDENSOME AND TAKEN A LONG TIME TO DO.
BUT WE CAN CITE MANY MORE CASES WERE A LITTLE BIT OF DELIBERATION AND THOUGHTFULNESS HAS PRESERVED IMPORTANT HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PLACES.
ONE HAS TO THINK ABOUT THE SPEED AT WHICH THE PRESIDENT DEMOLISHED TO THE EAST WING OF THE WHITE HOUSE TO GET THE PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO HISTORIC SITES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IF THE SUPPOSEDLY BURDENSOME PROCESS IS MADE ESSENTIALLY EFFORTLESS, SO LONG AS YOU CAN GET TO THE RELEVANT AGENCIES TO FOLLOW YOUR PARTICULAR VIEW OF THE SITUATION.
JEFFREY: PHILLIP KENNICOTT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PHILLIP: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
GEOFF: HIS IS A HOUSEHOLD NAME IN THE CLASSICAL VOCAL TRADITIONS THAT HAVE THEIR ROOTS IN EUROPE.
BUT FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS, THOMAS HAMPSON HAS DEDICATED HIMSELF TO REVIVING AND CELEBRATING AMERICAN TRADITIONS IN SONG.
FRED DE SAM LAZARO WENT TO SEE THAT ON FULL DISPLAY IN ASPEN, COLORADO FOR OUR ARTS AND CULTURES SERIES, CANVAS.
♪ FRED: MY DAYS HAVE BEEN SO WONDROUS FREE.
WHAT SEEMED LIKE A FITTING START TO A CONCERT HELD ON INDEPENDENCE DAY WEEKEND, COMPOSED AFTER ALL BUT ONE OF THE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, FRANCIS HOPKINSON, DRAWING FROM THE POETRY OF THOMAS PARNELL.
THOMAS HAMPSON GREW UP IN SPOKANE, WASHINGTON, AND HAD A STORYBOOK PATH TO STARDOM.
ATTENDING PRESTIGIOUS MUSIC ACADEMY IS BEFORE HIS LYRICAL BARITONE WAS DISCOVERED.
♪ HE’S PERFORM SOME 80 OPERA ROLES AROUND THE WORLD AND IS A RECORDING ARTIST AS WELL AND THE SOLO VOCAL TRADITION OF LEADER.
ALONG WITH THE EUROPEAN GREATS, HE’S ALSO LOVED THE AMERICAN TRADITION IN SONG.
♪ LIKE CHARLES IVES.
>> ♪ ALL SUMMER LONG ♪ FRED: OR HARRY BURLEY, THE PROLIFIC 19TH-CENTURY AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMPOSER.
♪ HAMPSON SAYS NOTHING COMPARES TO THE RICH VARIETY OF SONG IN AMERICA.
THOMAS: TO ME, IT IS THE ESSENTIAL E PLURIBUS UNUM STATEMENT.
IT IS NOT A MODULATING.
IT DOES NOT MEAN DILUTION OF THE DIFFERENCE.
IT MEANS LISTENING TO THE DIFFERENCE.
♪ FRED: HERE AT THE ASPEN MUSIC FESTIVAL, HE SHOWCASED THAT DIFFERENCE WITH A PROGRAM.
IN CULTURE, GEOGRAPHY AND PERIOD IN AMERICAN SONG, ACCOMPANIED BY A PIANIST AND SOME WORKS LIKE THIS BY A 19TH-CENTURY SONGWRITER STEPHEN FOSTER, AND VIOLINIST.
♪ THOMAS: I THINK IN THIS VERY VOLATILE TIME WE ARE IN THAT ONE OF THE GREAT REFUGES IS THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES, AND THE STORIES OF WHO WE ARE ESPECIALLY AS AMERICA.
FRED: THE WORKS WERE SELECTED FROM AN ONLINE LIBRARY CALLED SONG OF AMERICA.
HAMPSON BEGAN COMPILING IT DECADES AGO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS.
THOMAS: ALL OF THESE COMPOSERS AND POETS, THEY WERE ASKING US WHAT DOES AMERICA SOUND LIKE WHEN IT REMEMBERS ITSELF?
♪ FRED: ALL OF THE WORKS TODAY SAW THE COMPOSER DRAW FROM POETS WHO CAME BEFORE.
THEY WERE WORKS BY 20TH CENTURY COMPOSERS LIKE MARGARET BONDS, USING THE POETRY OF LANGSTON HUGHES.
♪ FROM CONTEMPORARY COMPOSER JENNIFER HIGDON TO THE DEATH OF LINCOLN WITH WORDS FROM WILLIAM CULLEN BRYANT.
♪ ♪ THOMAS: CAN YOU TEACH HISTORY THROUGH SONG?
HEAVENS YES.
ALL OF THE SONGS ARE TIPS OF ICEBERGS.
WE CAN SPEND AN HOUR GOING THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM WITH ALL THE WONDERFUL ANECDOTAL CONNECTIONS.
WHATEVER FIELD IN AMERICAN STUDIES, I WILL GIVE YOU A SONG TO AUGMENT YOUR TEACHING PLAN.
FRED: HIS SONG OF AMERICA LIBRARY WAS BUILT TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO TEACHERS TO INCREASE THE VISIBILITY OVER ALL OF A CULTURAL TREASURE THAT A COMMERCIALIZED MARKET MAKES NO ROOM FOR.
AND HE SAYS THE CAN PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE FOR RECKONING WITH SKELETONS OF AMERICA’S CULTURAL CLOSET, NOTABLY ISSUES AROUND RACE OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
HE CLOSED WITH "TO WHAT YOU SAID," A WALT WHITMAN POEM.
SOME SCHOLARS THINK BECAUSE IT SPEAKS OF REPRESSED LOVE AT A TIME WHERE BERNSTEIN WAS HAVING A SEXUAL IDENTITY CRISIS.
>> ♪ BEHOLD LOVE CHOKED CORRECT, POLITE, ALWAYS AUSPICIOUS ♪ THOMAS: PEOPLE ARE VERY AGITATED ABOUT THE INDOCTRINATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS OR THAT PATH OF EDUCATION.
YOU KNOW, EITHER DAM UP THE OCEAN OR TEACH PEOPLE TO SWIM, AND I PREFER TO TEACH PEOPLE TO SWIM.
♪ WHAT I SING IS INFINITELY MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHO I AM.
WE MUST LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER.
FRED: HAMPSON NOW LIVES IN AUSTRIA AND CONTINUES TO TEACH AND PERFORM AROUND THE WORLD.
♪ FOR THE "PBS NEWS HOUR," I’M FRED DE SAM LAZARO IN ASPEN, COLORADO.
♪ AMNA: APPALACHIA IS OFTEN STEREOTYPED AS A REGION DEFINED BY STRUGGLING COALMINE TOWNS AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
WRITER EMILEE HACKNEY SAYS THOSE PORTRAYALS DON’T REFLECT HER LIFE GROWING UP IN SOUTHWESTERN VIRGINIA.
HER DEBUT MEMOIR, "ALL THAT’S UNSEEN," COVERS GROWING UP INSIDE THAT WORLD AND THE POLITICAL INFLUENCES THAT CAME TO SHAPE IT.
I SPOKE TO HER FOR THE LATEST EPISODE OF OUR PBS NEWS PODCAST "SETTLE IN."
HERE’S A CLIP OF THAT CONVERSATION.
YOU TALK ABOUT HEARING FOLKS BACK AT HOME AS THEY’RE LEARNING ABOUT CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, ABOUT HIM GAINING POPULARITY IN APPALACHIA.
THEY LIKE THAT HE TOLD IT LIKE IT IS, THINGS WE’VE HEARD IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WHERE HE HAS STRONG LEVELS OF SUPPORT.
DID HIS STRENGTH AND HIS SUPPORT IN THE PLACE THAT YOU CALL HOME, DID ALL THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU AT THE TIME?
EMILEE: ABSOLUTELY.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNEW WERE TRUMP SUPPORTERS RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE HE COMES TO APPALACHIA AND HE SAYS, I’M GOING TO HELP YOU.
HE PAYS ATTENTION.
HE, YOU KNOW, MAKES US FEEL SEEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES.
AND WHEN YOU ARE COMING FROM A PLACE THAT’S REALLY STRUGGLING, LIKE APPALACHIA OFTEN DOES, OR AT LEAST THE COALFIELD APPALACHIA, IT’S LIKE, YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE, YOU HAVE TO HOPE IN WHOEVER, YOU HAVE TO TRUST IN WHOEVER OFFERS YOU HOPE, BECAUSE WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
WHAT ELSE DO YOU HOPE IN?
SO YEAH, AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, MAYBE THIS IS THE WAY.
MAYBE HE’S ACTUALLY GOING TO HELP.
MAYBE, YEAH, MAYBE, THIS IS RIGHT.
AND I WRITE ABOUT GOING TO A RALLY THAT HE HELD IN SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AT RADFORD UNIVERSITY AND FEELING JUST THE TENSION OF THAT ROOM DIDN’T FEEL RIGHT TO ME.
THE WAY THAT HE BEHAVED, LIKE SEEING HIM IN PERSON KIND OF TURNED ME OFF FROM THE IDEA OF HIM.
BUT IF I HADN’T GONE TO THAT RALLY, I DON’T KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME A LONGER TIME TO CHANGE MY OPINION OF HIM.
AND EVEN STILL WHEN I WAS AT HARVARD, I STILL HAD CONFLICTED FEELINGS ABOUT HIM BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE I KNEW BACK HOME WERE STILL SO SUPPORTIVE OF HIM AND HE WAS EARLY IN HIS FIRST PRESIDENCY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE’VE SEEN HIM DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT NOW I’M LIKE, OH MY GOSH, HOW COULD I HAVE SUPPORTED HIM?
BUT AT THAT POINT, IT HADN’T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET.
AND SO I HAVE THESE CONFLICTED, THESE CONFLICTED FEELINGS ABOUT THEM.
AND ONCE I STARTED REALLY LOOKING INTO HIS POLICIES OR LACK THEREOF IN ONE OF MY WRITING CLASSES IN MY INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM CLASS, THAT WAS WHAT FINALLY, I GUESS, MADE ME MOVE -- IT STARTED TO MOVE ME IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
AMNA: YOU’VE PROBABLY SEEN THE COMPARISONS BEING MADE NOW, RIGHT, BETWEEN YOUR BOOK AND THE BOOK WRITTEN BY VICE PRESIDENT VANCE, "HILLBILLY ELEGY," ABOUT HIS TIME GROWING UP IN APPALACHIA AND THEN IN OHIO.
DO YOU BUY THOSE COMPARISONS?
DO YOU AGREE WITH THEM?
EMILEE: HE MAKES A LOT OF GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT APPALACHIA BASED ON HIS OWN EXPERIENCES, HIS OWN ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES.
AND I DON’T FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE FAIR CHARACTERIZATIONS TO MAKE.
I THINK THAT HE PROBABLY ENCOUNTERED A LOT WHAT I DID.
SO I GO UP TO HARVARD, HE GOES TO YALE.
AND HE WRITES ABOUT BEING AN ODDITY, TOO.
-- AN ODDITY TO PEOPLE, TO NEW ENGLANDERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FELT THAT WAY, TOO.
AND I ENCOUNTERED THIS BIG APPETITE FOR, WHAT IS APPALACHIA?
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS A STEREOTYPE IN THEIR HEAD, BUT I THINK THAT HE SAW THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT APPALACHIA AND THOSE STEREOTYPES BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE HEELS OF THE 2016 ELECTION, APPALACHIA WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT AS BEING SO RED, SO TRUMP-SUPPORTING.
I JUST FEEL LIKE HE CAPITALIZED ON THAT APPETITE AND HE SAW THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT APPALACHIA, BUT MAYBE NOT REALLY.
THEY JUST WANTED CONFIRMATION OF WHAT THEY ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK HE PLAYS INTO THOSE STEREOTYPES BY USING HIS OWN STORIES FROM HIS CHILDHOOD TO SAY, LIKE ALL OF APPALACHIA IS ADDICTED.
LIKE ADDICTION IS ENDEMIC.
IT’S SUCH A PROBLEM.
IT’S -- ALL OVER, POVERTY IS SO WIDESPREAD.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT’S A FLATTENED AND NON-NUANCED CHARACTERIZATION OF APPALACHIA.
HE CANNOT SPEAK FOR APPALACHIA AS A WHOLE, AS HE DOES IN HIS BOOK.
AMNA: YOU FEEL LIKE HIS ANECDOTES, HIS STORY DON’T DIRECTLY RELATE TO WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED GROWING UP IN A DIFFERENT PART OF APPALACHIA.
IS THAT FAIR?
EMILEE: IT IS.
YEAH, I DON’T THINK THAT HIS STORY COULD SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE’S.
SO IN MY BOOK, I’M VERY CAREFUL TO SAY THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE IN APPALACHIA.
IT’S NOT GOING TO BE EVERYBODY’S AND I DON’T THINK THAT HE DOES THE SAME THING.
HE’S NOT CAREFUL THAT SAME WAY.
AMNA: YOU CAN WATCH THAT FULL CONVERSATION AND MORE EPISODES OF "SETTLE IN" ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGE OR WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS.
GEOFF: SOME LATE BREAKING NEWS.
U.S.
CENTRAL COMMAND SAYS IRAN LAUNCHED SEVERAL BALLISTIC MISSILES TOWARDS AN AMERICAN MILITARY BASE IN JORDAN THIS EVENING.
AMNA: THIS IS THE FIRST SUCH ATTACK BY IRAN SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP PAUSED ATTACKS ON IRAN LATE LAST WEEK.
THE U.S.
AS ALL IRANIAN MISSILES IN THIS LATEST ATTACK WERE INTERCEPTED.
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